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I haven't figured out if it's the Imperfections due to my crashes and Strange little things about this plane Because of my crashes that make this one Of my favorites or if it's just that Good of an airplane but consistently now This has been one of my air favorite Airplanes to fly had a little dilemma Today and just trying to figure out what I wanted to fly I didn't want to build Anything new I got a couple new Airplanes to bring to the channel I just Wanted to fly something for fun And I recently flew this for fun off Camera with a friend that just lost a Very near and dear family member and I Really enjoyed flying this and I thought Well it's been a while since it's been On the channel I don't know if this is In stock uh or anything if it isn't I Apologize but if it is and you don't own One do yourself a big favor and buy one The more I talk about this the more I See it online in Facebook forums and People just loving it and people all the Time will post a picture of it and say Don't know if you have one of these or Not but this is my daily flyer and it Continues to be one of my daily flyers And I've just been through so much and I Show a lot of new things on the Channel All the time but this one keeps coming Back beat up banged up glued up but it Still flies great and I just want you
Guys to realize and understand not Everything is always new new and perfect And out of the box it's okay to fly Something that you've flown for 200 Times let's make it 2011 and have some Fun how do you even open the canopy oh It opens there yeah I love I thought you Were going to have to do it up the front Oh I love how much space is in this Airplane that's one of my favorite Things you don't have to really finagle Wiring and tight corners and uh you know Something while I'm installing this Battery I'd like to talk about the Center of gravity on it because There was we just did a airplane uh from Motion it was their A10 the um 64 mm and The one thing that people really talked About a lot was the A10 CG saying that maybe I did something Wrong And the first time I flew it the CG was Off right then I landed it and I got it Better and it flew better but it still Wasn't great the thing is I fly these FMS planes these eflight planes arrows Planes And now I'm not telling you to do this But generally speaking I can throw a Battery in there inch it forward a Couple inches inch it back a couple Inches and she still flies great both in And out of safe I don't know if that's Engineering of the airplane I don't know
If that's it's flight stabilizer but I Can throw a dumb receiver why don't you Put your money where your mouth is and Put them both on the channel no oh here Okay let's do it so I just threw fly it Like this okay let's do it fly it like This and maybe I can uncut can we we fly Uncut let's fly yeah let's land it Switch the CG so you're going to get an Uncut video from this point on okay me Flipping around the mic and all and Nate's he has to tape it on because of The crashes yeah uh but Nate is going to Fly exactly how he originally set it up And then he can land and swap the Battery out so I'm not cutting I got to Flip the mic around and I also have to Get my camera gear set up so you can Hold the camera just for a second okay That's a fun idea I like this cuz you Know CG is important but not on Everything it's not as important as that A10 for Example hopefully that wasn't hard on Your Ears I okay so right we'll just fly this Quick and fun And have some fun with it but I I get That's not why I came out today I didn't Intend to do a CG video but you know What now that Abby mentions it I think That's a fun idea so these plan's been Through a lot so So just bear with me this flight for fun
Like I was the other day with my buddy Adam and my heart goes out to you Adam And your family for the loss of your Mother Unexpectedly okay so we'll only Fly for A short period of Time love that maneuver on This and people people say also just so You know the other thing that people Were saying in that video is that were Sponsored by Horizon I want to tell you Guys and I've replied to Horizon has Never wrote us a check ever the only People that write us checks are the Affiliate companies they work with That's it and that's not horiz tons of People use that any link you click ever You're supporting someone okay So well and you know I show their stuff Beat up I talk about things that I do And don't like just turns out doesn't Get their unies in a bunch too bad they Do sometimes when I talk about um things That I don't like and they have before I've mentioned some stuff and I don't Love it but I'm literally here telling You this is one of my favorite planes You know so Horizon all right so what Are you going to do are you going to Scoot It Forward Back because it's it is relevant but It's not some some people are like you Know your CG has to be perfect well yeah Like back when rotary phones existed you
Had to call the operator too right so Let's uh it looks like you got it scoot It pretty far back can you shove it in The nose a lot more sure let's do it so I got velcro here I got a right so let's Let's take it a whole let's put the Battery at least an inch up okay but Then I'll Just right to the edge of that velro Right so that's a good that's a good Bit Okay I don't recommend you guys do this I recommend you fly with the suggested CG but it is less important with some Models than others so we just put that Forward a good bit and I'll be very Honest with you I'm not worried at all About that at All again don't try this at home but I Think it's important for us to show you Guys this and talk about it so I'm not In safe I haven't been the whole time We're just going to take Off right there we Go I don't remember the Maneuvers I did On the last flight I would do them Exactly the same but let's just Handsfree it even needs trimmed up some Cuz I'll be honest I rebound this the Day that I flew it with my buddy so it Needs trimmed a little bit don't do it I'm not trimming it I don't want to trim Anything because I want you guys to see You did that little spinning maneuver
And you said o I love that maneuver on This plane flying low throttle that's That's below 50% the fly it fast too I'll do my kind of fun little maneuver Over Here that one yeah yeah right into a Knife edge anyway you see that I've uh Push the battery forward a good inch I Think or so maybe 3/4 of an inch but I'm Sure that's about an inch let's land it And we'll pull the battery pretty far Back which does have me a little bit Nervous but I I'm I'm going to do it With confidence so let not stall tail Heavy with confidence no beautiful Little Landing no that's what you're Going to do right pull the battery back Now this will be fair Fairly Significantly different for me uh from That flight because now I'm not just Going forward an inch I've got to go Back a couple in That Goes that will make it significantly Tail heavy more so more so okay so he is He was even with that velcro strap so Now you got to go at least well I think I was flying about there yeah that's Your first light we want to still be Safe so I want the battery to be almost On the edge of that first front velcro Risky I don't think anybody would Actually do this that's a that's a very Risky kind of unsafe maneuver but we
Know it's right on your receiver yes we Know we no one would really do this I'm Not changing anything we're just oh my Gosh so you know I guess this is a good Plane to test this with cuz yes it is Been through a Lot and we'll just do pretty Similar did we mention we love to fly With AMA oh yeah AMA is good okay let's Talk so I think I did a climb right yep I can tell it's flying a little bit on The tail heavy side but look at This it's not going caddy Wampus like The A1 Did uh here's some about mid throttle Flight like I did I think a different Direction but mid throttle to low Actually now we'll crank it up some do a Couple more Maneuvers here's a Full Throttle Pass snap it up here cuz I love snaps Especially on the battery he is toward The back like that and we'll do that Maneuver that I said I like to do out Here do a couple of them look at that so I can't notice a huge difference in how It's flying um from mid I mean how much More extreme can we get I wish this is Live chat cuz I would like to hear from You guys I just think it's funny that People were like he didn't check the CG But then you did and it still flew Terribly and I understand how CG works I Also understand not every airplane is so
Sensitive to the center of gravity Effects and point proven yes and this This is not something I've ever done With this airplane it's very much fly by The seat of our pants Oh giant Spider okay keep filming though there is A giant spider on my camera but I am so Committed please don't where's that it's It's right There okay watch out we can't I got it I Got it we can't Cut I just want to make another Adjustment so Abby wait hold on before You change anything do the CG test on The wings uh it's marked right here yeah I see that so oh that's real tail heavy Just so you guys know that's very very Tail heavy you see that I see that's Really bad like look how bad that is see How that makes sense because the battery Is pushed back and prove that it's still Pushed back stupidly far okay I don't Know how much more I mean you did you Could shove it Forward some more make it Nose heavy yeah cuz some people were Saying super nose heavy it wasn't heavy In fact your airplane was so don't even Use the back strap now I'm just going to Actually I need a little bit of vcro on The bottom yeah on the bottom I'm up Another inch right again do not try this At home but I'm trying to put my money Where my mouth is here oops sorry okay You see that yep you good hold on show
It again just cuz I fell asleep watching Strap it was the butt end was flush with This strap so that's forward about Another inch my tape is getting wore out So that might not hold but let's Continue this and then I've got a second Battery and I think I'd like to fly it For fun we'll see we'll see how long This video is not messing with flaps and This is very very nose heavy stupidly so It won't go forward anymore we've Shifted this battery almost the full Length of a battery stupidly know and That was my I shouldn't have banked as Much as I and this is all one flight One Battery too I think it's just really Funny how people come up with excuses For poor products and that's what in my Opinion that airplane is I didn't say Anything I'm not saying the company's Bad they have made poor um business Decisions in the past but so has Horizon And and companies all are capable of Releasing bad products or just less than Their great products and a lot of people Had opinions of that A10 that do not own The A10 and in fact pretty much Everybody that had an opinion of that A10 didn't seem to own it some people Did um and those that did said you know It's fair really accurate um what makes A good company though is how they handle How they handle the Feedback so it's been very interesting
Very interesting um we applied for their Affiliate program and uh they haven't Approved it is that cool but they Haven't denied it so that's fun so They're not happy you guys they do not Like honest reviews this is the and I've Or at least honest experiences I Wouldn't call that review it was a Maiden it was an experience um There it's strange it's very strange uh And people have said things like well Why would they release something that's Not perfect hey Horizon has let's talk About the their Aeros scal $100 AOS Scout everybody knows that thing is very Tail heavy you have to add nose weight For it to fly remotely good but they Still have it they still sell it it's Not a great airplane but that does that Mean they don't make great airplanes I'm Sitting here telling you of all the Planes that exist this is one of my Favorites to fly now if a company can't Take that kind of feedback that's the Company that has no right being in Business not the ones that try to hide Um when they do make a mistake because What happens is if a person buys the A10 As their first EDF let's say that might Be their last EDF ever experienced in The hobby our mission our goal with our Channel is not just to make $2 off of an Affiliate sale with you watching but It's to make sure that you watching have
A good experience in the hobby that's The point of our Channel and we're here To show you good bad ugly everything in Between and sometimes do fun things like We're doing in this video which is Messing with the CG like crazy Abby I Think this is a really crazy video in The I think the only other thing you Could do is not use the front strap and Set it all the way back but I'm Concerned it would hit your service well Let's try it before we go and I want to Make sure it's going to hold maybe one Minute of flight and that'll probably be The end of this video because if the Battery slips and it lands on your Servos then I've got to have enough Velcro here to hold it from slipping so Let's do That I think that's about all you can do Cuz you got to be safe with the battery Can't be ridiculous let's say that right There you sure as far back as I can go Oh my gosh cuz the velcro under the Battery needs to be holding so it Doesn't slip see I wasn't nervous with The nose one cuz I figured if it slips It's going to slip on to velcro this is Sitting flush over the bind and fly Receipt you're going to lose signal no I Won't I'm flying pretty close and There's no radio chatter or anything Today okay let's see what it does this Is a very interesting video I hope you
Guys appreciate this and you know I got A little defensive I will be honest uh With some of the comments from that Motion RC A10 and I apologize for any Any of the comments that I took a bit Too personally I'm going to focus right Now okay I can feel that it's a little Bit on the tail heavy Side but you know What I feel very confident flying this I Think the only unfair thing about this Test and someone's got to say it is that You have a lot of flights on this plane But never like this no I've never I Always slap the battery in about the Same spot I don't move it around or Anything so actually person could say I've built muscle memory with this plane I'm not flying it as if it were a maiden I've got muscle memory with it a little Bit anyway right so maybe maybe a person Could even say it would be slightly Unfair to me uh to to shift the weight Around some any of these professional Pilots that go get paid to fly if you Shift the weight around on their plane a Little bit they're going to notice it uh And really mess with them so I could go Both ways but that's a fair point Definitely climbing but just been Climbing this whole this whole flight This is a very crashed airplane a lot of People said that they wanted to see Nate's hands because they thought I was
Doing that purpose they were accusing Him of flying it like that on purpose Which is insane one more thing we would Never say something bad about a product If it wasn't true and if we make a Mistake we always address it uh and and Also uh I bought that airplane with 100 % my money my hardned money that's what I got for Father's Day I picked that out Cuz I wanted it it was in stock I Noticed there wasn't much content on it So I thought you know what this will be A good one to do cuz I've flown a lot of A10s all right just to show that it's Still There or if it's shifted which I'm Curious no still there no the yesc it's So far back your battery could have come Unplugged I mean but it wasn't going to Cuz I knew it was strapped up well so I Knew it wasn't going to wouldn't fly it Knowing the battery was unsafe in there Good flight I'm going to cut the video Now that is truly not what we set out to Do with this video but show the CG now I'm glad that we did yeah that's going To be really really far back so those Two circles here like look if I try to Pick it up where the CG is and I'm I'm Putting my finger toward the back end of That watch how far there's the circle Yeah and my finger is right there there See that mhm I can't even pick the plane Up look how tail heavy it is it's
Slipping see that I literally can't pick It up now put it back where you normally Do okay to see what the CG would look Like Yep right about Center of that battery Tray I would say okay still fly a little Tail heavy look at that see and that's Because it's unnoticeable I I apparently I fly well here we go no there we go There we go it's a little tail heavy see It's it's going to go back hold on it's Going to it's going to slowly go back Right so I generally your fing it Fell see that it's still I tend to fly It a little tail heavy right see that It's falling back and there's no wind so That's interesting not what I plan to do With this video but ideas pop in our Heads and there you go don't do any of That shifting around that I said and Showed you in this video don't do that At home that's not very safe but I was Very confident in my ability and the Airplane's ability to to handle that Because a lot of people I've noticed Through the years will ask me when I Madeen anything really FMS eflight Where'd you put the CG well I tend not To reply for multiple reasons one it's In the book you can see that book online Uh I've learned also to show people Usually nine times out of 10 I show you Where I M my battery in the video Especially on a maiden so you can see
That as a reference I don't really talk About it I just show it really fast That's good enough but also it doesn't Matter a lot cuz they've got these Planes flying rock and roll where you Can obviously shift it forward and back A lot and still fly at least eflight and FMS and arrows and arrows and those are Like the primary and a lot of Asen Planes yeah yeah Asen can make a Difference like the little war birds and Stuff but anyway that was fun I don't Really just let me know what you think About that in the comments um I'm sure I'm sure if some motion RC fans from That video still still have an opinion They'll share it and that's okay I'm Open to constructive criticisms I just Don't enjoy name calling you know Intelligence attacks and that kind of Thing that's really it's very juvenile Yeah and I've and shows character I've Never experienced a a group of people And and a lot of our regular viewers Noticed and commented on the fact they Even said some of some of you guys some Of the people that we love and you love Us and you know said I don't think I Want you to ever do a motion product Again there was so much toxicity in the Comments it was very off-putting and We've also were told that this happens Every time someone has something not Good to say about that and you don't
That's have you noticed you just don't See a lot of different people doing Motion RC stuff there's a reason for That there's a reason for that and and I I'll be honest with you guys I got Excited to do some motion stuff on our Channel so I got I bought paid for with Our hard-earned Money two airplanes from motion I got Another one and it was such a bad Experience on YouTube I'm not even sure You'll build it and fly it but whether The video gets posted I don't know will Get put to the chn and it's one that I've had my eye on for years well not Years about a year it's almost been out A year feels like years I've wanted it For a long time it's very unique and Very cool uh want so anyway hope people Said about your A10 Choice they're like You purposefully picked their worst Plane like how how would we have known That I don't because I'm not not really A part of their community and you would Have done the first first motion RC you Would have picked the the worst one on How would we have known that yeah don't So anyway kind of a unique video I kind Of just planned on coming out here and Flying this for fun with two batteries But man that was really really cool and Really fun I hope you guys appreciated That if you have questions about it or Whatever let us know in the comments I
Want to say a massive thanks to God for Blessing me with a learning experience From from that motion RC video uh I Could have come out a lot worse than What I did but Midway through the Release of that video and reading Through comments and stuff I just want To say a massive thanks to God for Blessing us with uh the community that We have here to help pull me through the Negative comments from that video and And to have my back and stuff too I'd Also like to mention AMA because I would Never ever have done this kind of Shifting around of CG to demonstrate This without flying with the Academy of Model Aeronautics it is an insurance Program but I've got to also give them a Small pat on the back for going to bat For us through the whole Representation with the FAA And it's amazing how far that money goes You get your magazine subscription You're insured you've got all these Events that you can go to The list goes on but for them to have Our to represent the hobby is really Nice cuz no one else really does do that We'll have the AMA Linked In the Description box below and if you want to Support us and our channel the honesty That we provide the awesome airplane That this is please use our links to buy The stuff it'll be linked in the
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