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After maiding the motion RC 64 mm A10 The goal was to maybe do a comparison or Versus video with the eflight 64 mm A10 Because they're both 64 mm a10s they are Almost identical when it comes to size As a matter of fact I just used my tape Measure and the eflight one seems to be Maybe an inch uh bigger on the wing span But there is a noticeable difference Quite a few actually and we're going to Talk about those in today's video and Fly them both and really compare them as Closely as I can because we did a maiden Flight of this and I treated it like I Would any other Maiden flight on our Channel we do not perfect them before we Fly them we fly them as an outof the-box Experience an honest experience now Today we might try and modify things to Make it fly a bit better we'll see how It goes $140 price difference That's The Upfront key thing to note because money Means everything honestly when it comes To purchasing power the eflight version Is 140 higher you can buy it in a plug Andplay and save probably 20 or $30 I Think they're $429.99 there you go and $289 yes 99 okay so the other giant Difference before we put these in the Air and start flying them both and Talking about them both is this even Though it's 64 mm is a 4S EDF this the eflight version is a 6S EDF that means you're getting a 6S
Capable ESC 6s capable Motors this one Has 4S capabilities there are 4S they're 40 amp esc's so the electronics are the First thing you probably should realize That even though they're physically the Same almost identically uh in scale but Not the same price not the same price There are more expensive Electronics in Here giving you 6s capabilities versus This one that is 4S capable some key Things to note they both have flaps they Both have ret tracks the motion RC Version has no lights the eflight Version does have pre-installed lights Also assembly time really quickly this One probably takes something like 15 or 20 minutes to put together I love that The missiles are on rails and things This one is about a 2H Hour 1 to 2 hours Uh depending on how good you are of Assembly time and it was a bit more Frustrating to put together this is just Through my experience in putting foam Airplanes together very simple a bit More challenging comparing the two so uh There were a lot of comments in the First video made of this one uh not as Much as this one and I just want to Address some of those things and fly Them both I think because I haven't Flown this one in a very long time I'd Like to fly it first as a bit of a bar And this one was a handful on my maiden So I'd like to make some adjustments and
Do the followup with it after we've Established the kind of standard with This one so let's put it in the air and Continue talking about these and also Have some [Music] Fun make sure I also think it's very noteworthy to Mention that I have a 6S battery in this Uh eflight version and I have more room Inside the canopy to move that battery Around if I want to adjust for CG uh to Get my hands in there and wires and Receiver and stuff it just has more Space and it's even a bigger battery so Something worth mentioning uh let's Interesting go ahead and Do a takeoff Here kind of skimmed it down the runway Didn't I we're going to get those laning Gear up when I get out of the sun I Should have had my sunglasses on if this Laning Gear Up Now guys don't think that I never say bad things about eflight Stuff the landing gear the ret tracks on This sometimes get a mind of their own And one of them this is my original A10 I will add uh one of them or all of them At random may or may not go up may or May not come back down so we always have To do a check uh before we bring it down And for anybody that thinks and this was Said a lot that we only say great things About eflight and we just had an agenda
Against motion that is very untrue uh Eflight and you know Horizon has had a Lot of issues lately like their website Issues and and eite just got mad about Your um Thunderbirds video they were not Happy about that video they showed it Failing $600 jet crashing and that I'm Sure they did not love that at all in Fact they but at least they approve us For their affiliate program okay so Having said that they don't pay us uh at All to say anything now the only way we Are paid is if you guys click the link Decide to purchase it through our links And Horizon does not write us the check They pay the affiliate company and then The affiliate company pays us and that's Only if you decide to support us by Clicking those links Horizon has never Once wrote us a check that's exactly Right Unfortunately they should yeah well but That's besides the point yeah so anyway Uh that's not why we do this we do it For fun and we want to make sure Everybody has a good experience in the Hobby that is why we do it and I I Bought I have bought this A10 just to be Very clear I've bought the eflight Version for myself yes we've been s Samples of it but I've also bought a Version for myself and I bought the Motion version out of my own money and It was my father's day gift I picked it
Out I wanted that because for various Reasons I like the A10 um and so the Reason I'm talking about all this while I'm just flying this is because it Fly Is really good I could I could push the Battery forward or back or anything and It's going to continue to fly good and We've proved that in a very recent video On the channel uh with another efly Airplane and I just you know I'm I'm Flying it also there was or there were Some accusations that I was Intentionally making it look like it was Purposing or something I've never tried This but let's just see what I if I'm Intentionally making this porpose can I Even do it You know probably maybe I would say so But like why would I do that it looks Controlled Porpose just saying no that looked Intentional our regular viewers actually Gave me a pat on the back saying man You're you're a great pilot I can't Believe you got that airplane back in The rough state that it was in so I was Scared yeah all right well I am ready to Land so let's drop the landing gear also I'm not flying in safe on this flight at All and I told you I got to check those Gear so I'm not going to commit to a Landing until I've seen all of them but I am going to come down I'm landing I See them all we're going to come in
Really hot look at that even as fast as That was are you doing hey don't you Remember This matter every time that was way fast But it sticks The Landing I've never Seen you land that was really fast so I Haven't flown this in a long time and I'm also just excited to put the other One in the air because I want to see if Our Um okay sorry we have a gator back there Not a real Gator a truck truck I will Mention it's hot enough to have Gator Right now mid90s right now we've been Waiting for this not complaining though No it's it's great but it is very hot Especially on this tarmac so um this A10 Probably has now at least 250 flights on It and that's got to be a very serious Number maybe more than that maybe closer To 300 but there it is uh holding up Well flies good I have a lot of faith in it I can get it Out and fly it and know that it's going To fly good and pan over to the motion One that's what I was expecting out of This airplane too my hopes were that it Would be probably tractor better than The eflight version because wouldn't it Be cool if I could come to you guys and Say look there's an just as good of an e Uh just as good of an A10 same size Cheaper battery outperforms the eflight Version that was you
Know the hopeful in goal but it was not The case so uh let's put the motion one In the air so you guys can see them more Comparatively I could go on and on about the list of Things I mean I don't know how deep you Guys want this comparison video to be But the is is it even fair to be Comparing Nathan let's be honest this is A whole I don't know 3s airplane cheaper Okay that's a good point it's a very Good point I I just feel like personally This is about a generation behind on Electronics and things like rails people Were be you know giving me very Constructive like put magnets on or Something but this is the the budget Option this is the budget option So we I think we titled the video Appropriately are the sacrifices worth The savings I think my representation of It was very honest I don't think people Liked your nasty Nate in that video a Bit of a gimmick and I think a lot of The motion fan base was new to our Channel because there's not a lot of Reviewers reviewers not that I call Myself that that do motion Stuff I think I know why but I don't Think the world wants to know why and Um anyway the goal is to just fly this And hope that it flies better because I Had a lot of people say it was nose Heavy I had a lot of people say it was
Tail heavy more people said it was tail Heavy so I added some nose weight here And I could shift the battery forward And back some more but after I made my Adjustments and I think a lot of angry Viewers didn't even watch long enough to See me make my adjustment I pulled that Battery forward and it did fly better And I said it flew better but it just Wasn't and if you miss Nate's CG video Does CG matter um I highly recommend you Go check out that vide absolutely Because it was super neat to see him Adjust the CG on an Eflight what did you do it on I forget On that was uh one of my favorite Airplanes actually the commander okay on The E flight Commander yes he super Messed with battery placement there Super mess with the CG and was still Able to fly it I've got to pull this Forward as far as I Can my goal with the motion maiden of When I bought it when I showed it on the Channel I trust us we want to work with More companies yeah like we don't want To make companies mad but we're also not Going to lie at the sake of a buck at The sake of maybe making a dollar if you Decide to buy this plane right I'm not Going to be like oh this is just as good As the e-light plane and it's $140 Cheaper but I was I'm just going to tell You my full honest experience that's how
We do our Channel and I still think that The reaction we got was really really Really really Weird uh one that I've never experienced Before even when we do Traxxas videos It's just it was strange and anyway the One flight characteristic that I will Say I liked more on my maiden flight of This versus the eflight version was the Roll rate was significantly higher right Out of the box and I really enjoyed that That was a that was very fun also people Have asked me to take my ordinances off But as you saw while they're glued on Because they don't come off unless I rip Them off and I could I could make Adjustments I'm not I'm not a caveman But they were on the eflight version and So I think that's a better direct compar Do you have all the ordinances on that One yes this one comes with some more Cuz this one has way more so you can see It has the big tank oh no no I missing a Couple sorry I'm missing I don't have a Big middle tank and you uh have broken a Couple maybe I have broken a couple of My and then you don't have a center one Does it come it never came with a center So that's the thing right okay um so This one's significantly heavier right Now no I wouldn't say heavier but I Would say more drag there I would say More drag fair Enough this one has shocks too see now
You fixed your nose see this shocks Shocks yes this one yeah some no it Doesn't it's uh it's fake it looks like Sharks but it's not really okay now you Fixed your nose I did yeah and added Extra glue in there for some nose weight Well a little bit of weight to just get A better CG I mean that's that was the Problem right we were very and I felt it We were really tail heavy now it feels Good that's pretty darn balanced so Batter is forward a little extra weight In here and I believe I believe someone Told me that motion RC released an Update video after they released this Saying that you did need to add some Nose weight so I think we're going to Fly better so let's just put it in the Air and see how it Does it's really funny because at the End of the day I don't think even I Realize probably a lot of these are made In very similar factories or at least Some of the parts and then they're Probably the parts are sent to another Factory and they're somewhat assemble Assembled there uh Versus I just there's a lot of Similarities you know what I mean They're both 64 mm now this is full 4 S And I think it needs to cook the speed More cuz the same size but more Drag so I'm going to cook the throttle More and already it just feels like it's
Purposing so I saw on the takeoff Landing gear up and I want to show you Guys that roll right there does look Good so it's flying better I'm easing Off on the juice some but it still just Feels wonky okay it's definitely Sensitive I think sensitive no not Sensitive It's okay it just feels like it almost Feels like it's Just almost like there's something Shifting around in there or something There's not you got Velcro on the bottom Of your Battery yes no there's nothing shifting Okay I've already flown this you know I've it doesn't just feel like it needs Trim it just feels Loosey Goosey I mean You guys can see it that is so fast Though it is it's a good roll rate does It snap well or will you snap it I don't Think you snapped it in the maid did Actually something looked like it just Cck down that was really weird it might Have just been my imagination but it Looked like the front wheel nope Something's whopping a little bit on the Front of the A10 well because of that I'm going to land it I just don't know What that is I think it's like grass oh Something's clicking around something Something's clicking so let's put the Landing gear down and I'm going to land It because something is acting like it's
Going to fall off of the oh whoa whoa Whoa whoa did you see that did you see That twist look at that why is it doing That I'm going to show your hands I Don't I don't know what to show cuz People are going to say you're lying That twist was wild that twist was wild I know you saw that I wasn't doing Anything but trying to save this Airplane cuz that's $300 of my own Hard-earned money that I'm trying to get Back down in one piece and I want to see What was flopping around on the front of This jet too now I got it down in one Piece but that was weird I think it's Cuz I was coming in at low speed and it Was just ready to like stall but man I've never seen anything jerk out of the Air like that sorry I didn't film the Plane I just thought people are going to Accuse you of doing that no no no cuz That's what happened in the last you Know what it was I already know what it Was I know what was flicking down in the Air your canopies popped off well that That might have been from the hard Landing okay to be fair okay nothing Shifted that battery is still snug up Front because my velcro and my velcro Strap nothing shifted I know what was Flipping around in the wind it was this Watch This I guarantee this was getting caught And it
Was that's just getting caught in the Wind a little bit of wind gets in here And it gets pulled down like a big air Braake that's what I was seeing and I Didn't see that on the maiden and that Spring is supposed to be enough to hold That up but clearly it's not now I don't Think that's the cause of um I also want To show you something unless that's Because you're Landing probably land um Ret tracks are broken it's that was a Hard Landing so has to be you saying Broken cuz this is Twisted a little it's Not in well it's just a little off and That's got to be cuz my hard Landing okay I don't think they ever Working anymore yeah okay well it's it Does work it just got Twisted because I Came down hard on that wheel okay that's Why sorry for not filming that guys That's okay that's Okay sometimes I do wish you had a Camera on your sure but for this Actually only for motion planes cuz You've never been accused of that never Been accused I've shown I have shown FMS The FMS beaver and let's just be very Honest Horizon sent that FMS Beaver well You just rolled your favorite I think at Least it's my favorite Thunderbirds into The hill yeah and nobody was like w FMS Paid you to crash that I've also had um The FMS Beaver literally explode on Camera and when it did I was like hey
Ron just so you know this happened we're Going to post it and was okay we've Never had such crazy and and you know Maybe wild accusations no and uh The the I just couldn't most of the time When I show something failing it's Either my fault or the airplane's fault Or or helicopter whatever and I if I Know it was my fault I take full Ownership of It I've I've never experienced the same Reaction that we had on the maiden Flight of this just for being honest and It was very um very off-putting just to Be really honest with you guys it really Even started to get me a little bit Upset but I used that as a learning Opportunity learning experience to Handle personal attacks a little better Like spiritually so that was actually Really healthy for me to kind of Experience because it I stand by Everything I said in that maiden and I I Will not um I wouldn't have said it if I didn't mean It I think the only thing you were wrong About and even in this video this is $140 difference yeah I'll give you that So but you can't compare apples to Apples but you can compare I think I can How this flies versus other $289.99 sure but that's a they're both They're both 64 mm and I and they're Both very similarly size like an inch
Off so I mean I'll put that back in the Air but I don't really want to you know That's not fun to fly and it wasn't fun To build eflight stuff at least that one Was oh and how dare you pick their worst Plane on their website yeah someone Accused me of intentionally picking Their worst I'll tell you what I picked Another airplane the same time that I Bought that one cuz it's another one That I wanted we have known that there's No videos motion's own videos on this That's exactly right so I I will let you Guys take both videos with a grain of Salt take it for what it is for me it is A factual honest experience with no Motives no motives I'm just and no there Was a motive it was to start working With motion yeah right hey look what we Can do but turns out I don't think They're very happy with us right now Honesty is is our only policy and some Companies aren't cool with that and That's not to say they don't make good Airplanes okay no we have another one I Have another I'm hoping it flies better I have another one and and so people Even say they they dominate in the jet Market well maybe they do and maybe this Is their one and only DED but isn't that Super ironic if it is and uh and I'm not Saying I'm not trying to take away from Anyone's positive experiences they've Ever had with a motion freewing or
Anything that they've ever bought on That website if you've had fun with it That's all that matters at the end of The day what I'm trying to do here is to Say audience that we've built up over 11 Years or so we've shared our honest Experience up to this point and though EF flight's not perfect it's got pros And cons In my opinion The Experience isn't up to Snuff so if you're like me and you're Just shopping around and you're used to Flying the eight bind and fly EF flights That you have or plug-and playay I'm Here to tell you this is not a similar Experience there's work involved it's Harder to assemble it's harder to get to Fly right I'm not saying that it can't Fly right but there's a lot of work Involved to get it to fly right I'm not The type of person that builds builds Kits from scratch to get them to fly Perfectly I don't have time we've got a Young family and everything I look at Our Channel fly a lot of phone a lot of Plug-and playay a lot of bind and fly This fills in that category and that was And is my honest experience and I'll Stand by that till the day I die and if You don't like it that's Okay I but I have yet to see other than Motions video Uh single video on YouTube of this Flying well so I'm just trying to help
People out that's all and are you going To fly it again no okay sure let's end The video with one more flight I'll put A fresh battery in I might not be able To get the retracts up but let's just Try one more time I guess right up to You you're the pilot do what you think Is best think no I I'm ready to move on from this Airplane to be honest okay yeah so um no I'm I'm mostly I'm not happy with the Experience that's not what I wanted at The end of the day through purchasing This but it's we're tested all the time In life aren't we uh to stand by our Values or not I could be a sellout and Tell you how awesome this thing is and Go buy it and maybe maybe they'll start Sending me free foam but to me it's not Worth it uh and I can always thank our Patreon supporters for helping me buy Stuff like this or do you want to Address one more comment I remember you Telling me about yeah sure um selling Your crashed planes and pee planes oh Okay so sometimes I sell really great Things of mine sometimes I sell broken Things of mine but I'm always very clear About them if I if I move them on and a Lot of times just not that it matters to You guys out there but a lot of times I Take if I sell something like this and I Get any amount of money from it most of The time it goes to a less fortunate
Family in one form or another that's True if it's ready to run and beginner Friendly I don't just give away this you Can't just give this away yes to un less Fortunate people and in the airplane Community if you can fly people don't Just want your stuff because it takes up Room well space is limited on people Bang good stuff that's ready to fly even Eflight stuff or Hobby Zone or anything That's ready to fly the little Pioneer Armas we've given away armas brand new We've given away AR Uh just like our local town and stuff uh We give them away if they're ready to Run and if they're ready to fly and easy To fly a lot of times we give them to Fundraisers or or less fortunate Families or just friends that have done Us favors and stuff like that I can't Just go give this to someone that has Never flown a plane before there that There's no value in it and a less Fortunate family are they going to have That no are they going to have even Electricity to charge around here no so What I have to do is It's just crazy and then I take that Money and we generally not always but Most of the time we'll take the money From this if I do sell it and that money Goes to a less fortunate family or maybe They'll help us do something so that They're kind of earning a little bit of
It too but a lot of times we do make Donations with the money that comes from Ever selling our stuff so yeah God Forbid right I sell my $150 plane on Like Marketplace for 30 bucks crash Planes people look for crash planes all The time for parts yeah so that was like One person but just you know it was a Weird experience doing a motion video And I mean I could buy motion stuff all Day long we've got patreon support That's there for that reason but I don't Know if I want to it's just really a Negative experience and and that's not What I'm after after I want people to Have positive experiences and that's What our YouTube channel has been since Day won if you guys want to support our Honesty uh there are a few ways you can Do that you can leave a comment you can Leave a like you can share this video Those are free ways you can go watch More of our videos and watch all the way Through to the end that's a great way to Support us you can click any Link in our Video website except for this one you Can click that one and we have other Links down there too that'll take you to Like aain and other websites if you Prefer those websites you can click our Link and then it supports us and it Doesn't cost you a single extra Penny But if you were going to buy a battery For your A10 anyway click the link first
Less money goes to corporate a little Bit of money goes to Mom and Pop YouTubers that are just the two of us Doing this you can also support us Through patreon directly patreon support Plus our hard earned sweat gets us stuff Like this that we want to feature on the Channel and we're very grateful for your Support I also want to say a massive Thanks to God for blessing us with this Awesome beautiful calm day to test both Of these back to back and to give me the Strength I guess or maybe that's not the Right word but just uh the The Willpower To go through with this even after that Maen flight video I'm just grateful to Be here and to share these experiences With you guys and finally a a massive Thanks to our patreon supporters because You supplement the free phone when the Companies don't want to send the free Phone because there's a reason they Don't want to send the free phone we say Thank you to our patreon supporters Massively and to everybody thank You if you missed the maiden flight Video I want you to be the judge for Yourself and go check that out I'm Guessing most of you have seen that but If you missed it no I was going to do The CG video that's better to see let's Go watch is CG even important at all After watching these two jets fly I Think you're going to really find this
Video extremely eye opening so that Video is popping up right about now Thanks for watching we'll see you there Bye